As a certified forest therapist, Michelle Abbey knows the personal benefits of heading outside. She’s even shared them with us during Humans Outside Season One. But getting into nature isn’t just something she recommends for clients — it’s also a tool she and her husband Derek Abbey use for bettering their marriage.
In this episode of Humans Outside Michelle and Derek reveal not only why spending time has been an incredible marriage tool, but how others can leverage nature for both themselves and their relationships.
[1:49] Derek Abbey’s favorite outdoor space
[3:18] Derek and Michelle’s National Parks challenge
[4:13] A reminder about forest therapy
[5:56] Derek’s outdoor story
[7:57] Michelle’s outdoor story
[12:02] Outdoor appreciation vs. connection
[13:06] The value of getting outside your comfort zone
[16:05] Is three a crowd outside?
[19:02] How the outdoors has benefited their relationship
[28:01] An epic couples adventure
[33:04] How to get past hard stuff outside together
[41:00] How to compromise outside
[47:32] Creating ‘sacred spaces’ outside
[50:19] Derek’s favorite outdoor gear
[52:52] Derek’s favorite outdoor moment